legionseagle wishes fandom had a more progressive penal code

[paxpinnae]

Basically, all a very significant majority of the fandom's criticism of River can be summarised as:

"Prisoner at the bar; you stand accused of being Jack Harkness while in possession of a pair of ovaries. Do you plead guilty or not guilty?"

Context is discussing Mary Sues. Again. QWP.

Comments

[undomielregina]

(I did like him when he had the Ninth Doctor as a foil. That worked. Then his character kinda changed completely, and he lost the sexy hat.)

Yes, yes yes yes! I feel like I'm practically to the point where I think of Torchwood!Jack as a different character entirely. DW!Jack is much more fun, and while some of that is the fault of the attempt to adult-ify TW, I think it was a bad idea to introduce a show where the hook is that we follow the adventures of a character we know and like, and then find out that he's turned into someone else entirely when we weren't looking.

But I like River, because she reminds me very much of DW!Jack -- he had a similar facility with ancient tech and cryptically tragic back-story, imo, for starters.

[teapot_rabbit]

I think it was a bad idea to introduce a show where the hook is that we follow the adventures of a character we know and like, and then find out that he's turned into someone else entirely when we weren't looking.

Good god, yes. I am perfectly happy to believe Torchwood!Jack is a different character! It was kind of odd rewatching the DW episodes with Jack after watching Torchwood, for that very reason.

I don't hate River, she's just not my favorite character ever. To each their own, though! ^_^

[undomielregina]

I see nothing wrong with you not liking River! She's not my favorite character in season 5 or 6, although I'm having trouble saying who my favorite is. I really like everyone this time around and the last time that happened was with Nine.